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Alex Bull's avatar

Really enjoyed this — it definitely got my brain cooking.

As a nurse, empathy is basically currency in my world, so this landed in an interesting way. One thing it made me wonder about is whether empathy is less something people lack, and more something that gets narrowed or shut down when perceived threat is high. When the world feels hostile or unsafe, care seems to contract, often as a form of self-protection.

It got me considering a thought experiment: if we could inject empathy into new nurses the moment they walked through the door, would we actually want to? I’m not sure we would. A sudden flood of empathy, without the emotional intelligence to direct it or recover from it, would probably just lead to overwhelm rather than better care.

In training we don’t try to “add” empathy so much as help people learn how to hold it, tune it, and sustain it under pressure — and how to protect it when the stakes are high. That makes me sympathetic to the logical case for reducing suffering, but also curious whether creating conditions where empathy can survive and be rewarded matters as much as mapping the circuitry itself.

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"The number of us humans who reliably generalize affective empathy across all conscious creatures, all the time, without situational drop-off is effectively zero."

I really like your IWRS model and I will explore it further, though I think this distillation of your thoughts is probably enough. I do think though that much of the empathy gap you describe is cultural rather than biological: humans have the capacity to extend empathy even beyond our species in the right cultural context. Jainism or strict Buddhism for example. There may be some people who simply aren't hard-wired for empathy, but I think the number that couldn't be culturally conditioned for empathy is vanishingly small. On the other hand, I think our world shows us pretty convincingly that cultural conditioning can likewise strip just about anyone of empathy for perceived "out groups."

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