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Kaiser Basileus's avatar

There is no sense in which the will is free, but we may feel free to the extent we are ignorant of causality, and the word will alone is sufficient for discussing that experience.

You need nothing but that sentence to understand literally everything about free will that matters.

Ingrid Bjerknes Røyne's avatar

Really interesting! So if I understand this debate correctly: If determinism is true, a person could not have acted differently in that moment where he/she did something wrong. If they could not have acted differently, it seems wrong to say they deserve suffering. Compatibilists say: “We still have responsibility because blaming people is useful. But that’s not real desert; that’s just social engineering. The question becomes: Do we have any REAL moral responsibility left, or only practical reasons to influence behavior?Do we only have practical reasons to influence behavior?

This is exactly where the philosophical fight happens.

Free will skeptics (Pereboom, Harris, Caruso, Sapolsky) say:

→ Only practical responsibility survives.

→ True desert is impossible under determinism.

Compatibilists (Dennett, Frankfurt, Strawson) say:

→ We don’t need deep desert.

→ It’s enough that responsibility is useful and connected to reasons.

→ Punishment doesn’t have to be metaphysically “deserved.”

Now consider this: https://substack.com/@consciousophy/p-168536411

This text is not really participating in the free-will / desert debate at all.

It comes from a completely different worldview — a spiritual-psychological model where crime is understood as a symptom of inner pain and societal fragmentation, not as an issue of free will or moral desert.

It essentially skips the entire debate about determinism vs. free will and instead reframes crime as:

An expression of wounded consciousness, trauma, fear, and disconnection — not a morally blameworthy act that someone “deserves” to be punished for.

It brings a totally different perspective, but not one that answers the free-will argument.

It is not a compatibilist argument and not a skeptic argument.

It’s a third category: a spiritual-therapeutic reinterpretation of crime (not sure exactly what to call it)

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